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Posted on 13-09-2024 08:15
Openai just dropped their new model o1 (Strawberry) which is supposed to offer what is referred to as System 2 thinking.

This is exactly what the critics (makers of Blocksworld) say that LLMs lack, so it will be interesting to see the Blocksworld benchmarks for this model.

I've done some experiments with it, and I can't say that I am that impressed yet.

The most impressive thing is this ability to see the model's chain of thought. It definitely looks like some sort of thought process, albeit a bit alien


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Edited by Grizlas on 13-09-2024 08:21
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Posted on 27-09-2024 19:32
A new Planbench paper is out: LLMS STILL CAN’T PLAN%3B CAN LRMS?
A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION OF OPENAI’S O1 ON PLANBENCH


And here are the Planbench results:



o1 almost aces regular Blocksworld with 97.8% accuracy, compared to the previous best model 62.6%. On Mystery Blockworld it does substantially better than previous models - 52.8% compared to the best model 4.3%.

Goalposts are then promptly moved, by increasing problem steps and further randomizing of strings. The results on these new benchmarks show that o1 still can't plan all that well. Here's their conclusion:




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Edited by Grizlas on 27-09-2024 19:33
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Posted on 09-10-2024 21:35
John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton win the 2024 Nobel Prize in Physics for their pioneering work on neural networks. Also, David Baker, Demis Hassabis and John Jumper win the 2024 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for developing AlphaFold (Google Deepmind).

Geoffrey Hinton, a complete savage, almost immediately uses this oppurtunity to take a swing at Sam Altman smiley

https://fortune.com/2024/10/09/openai-sam-altman-geoffrey-hinton-nobel-prize-physics-ilya-sutskever-toronto/


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Posted on 10-10-2024 06:48



The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking.
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Posted on 12-10-2024 09:11



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Posted on 22-03-2025 10:24
Vibe Coding is a new thing. What do people think about it?




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Posted on 30-03-2025 19:15
Hahaha that's just brilliant smiley

Nailed Jesus by the way smiley no pun intended


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Posted on 05-07-2025 12:57


A long nerdy talk by John Carmack (creator of Doom/Quake). He says this, which I completely agree with and find very interesting (at 4:22)


All the cool kids are doing an LLM startup and raising huge amounts of money to do things, and I am, you know, amazed and excited about all the things that are happening there.

I’m a daily user of many of these technologies, but I do still look at this: fundamentally, LLMs can’t be the whole answer, you know? These uh, transformer-based models — it’s not the way a human brain works, and what they do, as magical as it is, is not handling so many of the fundamental things that, you know, cats and dogs do, let alone small children.

Where a lot of people don’t, you know, they imagine that these LLMs are reading all of these books, reading the whole Internet, and they don’t understand that, no, it’s taking all of human knowledge, putting it in a giant blender, and then training from there, and it’s magical: it works really well. But when you’re put into a situation where you have to learn something new, there are fundamental things that so many of the researchers here are working on that are just not understood yet. We do not have even a line of sight to an answer for these things.





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